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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Heap) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alain Caillet) writes:
>>Is ther any winsock application that would log on my account,
>>-  ftp the mail file (always the same name) to my PC,
>>-  delete the file in the server  (may be ftp  a copy with a different name, just in case
>>            something want wrong,
>>-  let me  reply by SMTP protocol directly from the Windows/ PC,
>>-  then append whatever is left of the file after messages have been removed, to the
>>           message file that may now contain newly received message on the server,
>>-  and delete the backup file on the server.

>        What you are describing is basically the function provided by
>any POP mailer. In particular, Eudora is my favourite mailer. It is
>available in both PC (winsock) and MAC incarnations, and in freeware and
>commercial versions. Current PC free version is 1.4. Available from the
>authors at Qualcomm (ftp.qualcomm.com). In my opinion, one of the best
>POP mailers around. We've converted most of our instutution to it.

Alternately you can try pc-elm and winelm, available at src.doc.ic.ac.uk (if
you're bent on using ELM).
Regards
Andreas
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Subject: Slip Server for Windows?

Can anyone recommend a SLIP server package that runs with WINSOCK?

Thanks

Steve
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Subject: Re: Trumpet Winsock tuning?

I have also been wondering about the "correct" settings for Winsock.  I am
running a packet driver on a 16-bit Ethernet card, and my settings are the
following:

MTU   1500
TCP RWIN   32768     (I read to increase it to this here, but I don't think it
made a difference.)
TCP MSS   660

Should I change these?  Is there a "faster" configuration?  Post a reply here
or send E-mail to [e-mail].

TIA...

Mike.
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Subject: Re: Where to get MS TCP-32 VxD beta Winsock

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Where to get MS TCP-32 VxD beta Winsock
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 11:28:18 GMT


>I've posted several time about the new 32-bit protected mode (VxD)
>Winsock - MS TCP-32 - available (free) as a beta release from
>Microsoft. It is still performing very well, and very fast with the
>apps I have tried (Hgopher2.4, QVTnet 3.96, WS_FTP 93.03.25, and
>Trumpet 1.0a). Mosaic 2.02a has its usual problem (sooner or later
>you crash and burn), but that I believe is a Mosaic problem. The
>very latest (as of 3/25/94) Cello (ver?) from Cornell now at least
>loads, but doesn't seem to want to use DNS, so it just sits dumbly
>in its own local home page and can't get out to the web.
>At any rate, the real reason for this is to post where to find it
>because I've been getting a LOT of e-mail asking this same question.

>Site: ftp.microsoft.com
>Machine Type: Windows NT
>Login: anonymous
>Password: <your e-mail address>
>Path: /peropsys/WFW/tcpip/vxdbeta
>File: mtcp1b.exe

>It's a self-extracting archive. Read the documentation. Follow the
>instructions. Basically, just install it through the "Network Setup"
>icon as you would any other protocol you're adding: [Drivers...],
>[Add protocol...], Unlisted or Updated..., browse to location of files,
>select it, and be sure to select [Setup...] to enter IP address etc.,
>and [DNS...] to specify your name server.
>Hope this is of some help...
>Doug
>[e-mail]


What exactly would this package allow me to do that Trumpet Winsock doesn't?

Mike
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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Waldron)
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Subject: Books.com and Trumpet

Hi, folks.  I'm working on a communications package that includes a
VT100 emulator for telnet and modem connections.  We're using FTP
software's winsock.dll as well as Tattam's Trumpet Winsock.  We have
encountered a problem using Trumpet, however.

We have a database of (literally) hundreds of sites to which we can
connect.  But when we connect to books.com (an online bookstore), all
writes to the socket fail (we can read data succesfully) with
EWOULDBLOCK.  The connections are essentially automated (user clicks
on a list entry), so there's no difference in the way the program
handles connections for different sites.

Now, if we take the same executable and run it with FTP's winsock.dll,
the connection is fine, etc.  Connections from various UNIX machines
work fine, as well, so it doesn't seem to be books.com's fault, at
least at first glance.

And lastly, just so no one thinks it's my code's fault, Tattam's
trmptel.exe hangs nicely on books.com, too. :-)

So, here are my requests:

  1)  Could someone out there in Netland who is using Trumpet Winsock
      just try a telnet connection to books.com (192.148.240.9) and
      tell me if it fails (or works) for you?

  2)  Is there anything else (like in my setup) that would cause
      *every* other connection but this one to work fine, but make
      this one fail?

  3)  Suggestions to work around a recalcitrant socket connection?

Thanks for the help!
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 31 16:38:44 1994
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Subject: Re: TCP/IP & NFS Software...VxD-based TCP/IP is here...

On Fri, 25 Mar 1994 16:41:51 GMT, Pat Hayes wrote:

>If you're not in a hurry to plunk down $$$, give the free (beta)
>TCP/IP stack from Microsoft a try.  Its VxD-based.  Doesn't come with
>a bunch of apps like Chameleon, but should run any winsock-compatible
>app like Trumpet news, WS_FTP, HGopher, Mosaic, Celllo, and Eudora
>mailer. I heard that a refined ver of this stack and some net apps
>may be included with Chicago.
>
Where could i get hold of the beta?
Does it support SLIP or PPP?
Will it run under Win-OS2?

thanks,


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Subject: Re: Slip Server for Windows?

[e-mail] (Steve Makofsky) writes:

>Can anyone recommend a SLIP server package that runs with WINSOCK?

Distinct TCP/IP for Windows does it.


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Best regards, Jozsef

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Subject: Re: PPP for windows

On Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:58:31 UNDEFINED, Chris Nappi wrote:

>On this same note, what are the advanteges of ppp over slip ??
>Chris

PPP is a proposed internet standard and SLIP is not.

PPP implements a three layered protocol:
Data Link Layer Protocol, Link Control Protocol,
and Network Control Protocols.

Specificaly what this accomplishes is that a PPP connection:
 -can gurantee reliable delivery.
 -can use link control info to dynamically control the
  characteristics of the connection.
  (Speed, compression, junk like that)

Unfortunately this makes PPP more complex to implement.
SO... There is and will be more SLIP setups available
for the forseeable future (like this week:-).)

Also, it doesn't have a lot of advantage if you are
using a modern modem wich supports dynamic
compression and error correction in hardware.
(Except maybe the Network Control Protocols and that
 you can change the PPP software.)

More info on PPP can be found in RFC1171 & RFC1172.


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From: [e-mail] (Jon Lewis)
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Subject: WinQVT/Net ftp server error

Can anyone tell me what the "error comm_write_blk: timeout has occurred" means.
I've been running the FTP server in WinQVT/Net version 3.96.5 for quite a
while, and recently the ftp server has been having these errors.  It looks
like every time this happens, the file being transfered at the time gets
corrupted.
What part of the hardware or software could cause this?
I'm running WFWG 3.11, using the dis_pkt9.dos packet driver shim, Trumpet
Winsock 1.0b2, and several other winsock daemons.  I'm also using a very old
NE2000 clone card and a Seagate 1239a hard drive that is failing.



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From: [e-mail] (Esh, Andrew)
To: [e-mail] (Slawomir Z. Janicki)
Subject: Re: Problems with new MS TCP-32
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 14:06

[e-mail] (Darryl Friesen) writes:

>Has anyone else experienced probems with Micosoft's new TCP/IP
>stack (the March beta) and Winsock apps?

>Specifically, WinQVT/Net 3.97, NCSA Mosaic for Windows 2.0A2,
>and HGopher 2.4 no longer work, or barely work, after I installed
>it.  HGopher and Mosaic seem to wait forever to get a response
>from even our local servers (the resolution of names works, but
>they never seem to receive data from the host).

>WinQVT/Net "drops" characters VERY frequently.  A look at the
>console shows hundreds of errors, almost all are:

>comm_write_char; send() error 10036
>comm_read; recv() error 10036
>comm_write_blk; send error 10036

>The net effect is the loss of every 4th or 5th character I type
>(VERY annoying).

A look at the doc for Winsock gives: Error number 10036 = WSAEINPROGRESS,
which, in dog years, is "A blocking Windows Sockets operation is in
progress", and is explained with "This error would be returned if any
Windows Sockets API function is called while a blocking function is in
progress."

I would check your setup, and while you're at it, make sure you don't
have any extra software set up. Try turning off or commenting out some of
the network software until WinQVT has only what it needs to run. I run it
all the time with VXDTCP, and lately on Lan Workplace 4.12. You may want
to try a different Winsock stack.

Sorry I can't be more help, but this could be a number of things.

Andrew Esh
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